The Fire Hose of Chaos: Chinese Edition Intro

Peter Zeihan 4 min

There was no way that the People's Republic of China was going to survive as a unified government. And that is before Donald Trump arrived.

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Chapters

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    Demographic Collapse

    China's population has aged and shrunk, with birth rates below the US since 1991 and a potential overcount of up to 300 million people.

  2. 1:22

    Manufacturing Uncompetitiveness

    Labor costs in China are two to three times higher than in Mexico, making them uncompetitive in manufacturing despite their industrial infrastructure. Credit expansion in China has increased by a factor of 4,000 since 2000, leading to inevitable financial collapse. Monetizing capital for political quiescence creates ghost cities and an agricultural sector that is the least efficient in human history. The People's Republic of China cannot survive as a unified government or country within eight to ten years.

Key points

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    China's birth rates have now been below that of the United States since 1991.

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    China's population probably slipped below India's sometimes between 10 and 15 years ago.

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    China's own statisticians think now that they've overcounted by at least 100 million people, maybe as many as 300 million.

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    There are more people over age 53 than under.

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    Labor costs per unit of production in China are two and three times what they are in Mexico.

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    The Mexican labor is more highly skilled.

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    The Chinese have increased the amount of credit in their system by a factor of 4,000 since 2000.

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    If you just continue to expand your money supply like China has to the point that it's triple in absolute terms what the U.S. money supply is, and they're not even a traded currency, you start turning capital into a political asset rather than an economic one.

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    The Chinese use it to ensure mass deployment so that their people are quiescent.

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    It also creates the housing sector, which is a legion of ghost cities.

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    On a capital-rated basis, the Chinese agricultural sector is the least efficient agricultural sector in human history.

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    There was no way that the People's Republic of China was going to survive as a unified government.

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9:03

The Fire Hose of Chaos: The “Deal" With the Chinese

Peter Zeihan

Everything about the Chinese system is terminal. This does give them a little bit more bandwidth and allows them to stall the end perhaps a little bit more.

8:24

The Question of Leadership…And Management

Peter Zeihan

Three world leaders are actively destroying their states' ability to function. Xi will destroy China, while Trump's actions may teach the US what to do and not do with its government.

7:25

The Fire Hose of Chaos: China's First Domino

Peter Zeihan

The Chinese system is cracking apart under strain, forcing the US into an impossible industrialization pulse that will lead to stagnation. The disconnect caused by ideology makes it impossible to see the edge we are pushing closer to.

8:09

How Was Trump's Trip to Asia?

Peter Zeihan

Trade relationships with aging nations must eventually go to zero regardless of political reasons. The back and forth and the ebb and flow continues without final resolution.

10:03

The Fire Hose of Chaos: Finance

Peter Zeihan

The combination of retiring baby boomers and unpredictable US policies is causing a massive reduction in global capital supply, which drastically increases borrowing costs. These factors combine to slow economic growth across the entire American economic space.

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